tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-869913311871017280.post7234751574023032152..comments2023-11-05T06:05:59.611-06:00Comments on koinonia: New / Old SchoolErik Ullestadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10107051442323025127noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-869913311871017280.post-15941066653543034392009-03-17T22:16:00.000-05:002009-03-17T22:16:00.000-05:00(hey, sorry to be so traditionalist/fundamentalist...(hey, sorry to be so traditionalist/fundamentalist/old-fashioned, but I liked the blog title godisnowhere better ;-)<BR/><BR/>I've been thinking about this all day, and am wondering if by using terms like 'equipping' and 'empowering' (which I've done, many times) we betray our assumption that gifts and abilities and power are centralized, rather than diffuse. If we think that the 'Pastor' has that much influence, we've already lost our stake in our churches. <BR/><BR/>Now I affirm the place of leadership and of pastoral gifts, but I'm wondering if even 'equipping' Pastors are hoarding power that they shouldn't, and making their jobs all the more difficult.Mike Stavlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00834095663011794120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-869913311871017280.post-73192383480105911552009-03-15T22:28:00.000-05:002009-03-15T22:28:00.000-05:00Thanks for weighing in Flippy :-) I tend to be a...Thanks for weighing in Flippy :-) I tend to be a OSP kind of guy at heart, and tend to think that those gifts are most often best-suited to lead large-ish churches. However, I know a lot of the pastors coming out of seminary have been given a different sort of tutelage...which might be kinda cool, too. (I'm sure I'll change my mind on this tomorrow and the next day...)Erik Ullestadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107051442323025127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-869913311871017280.post-41263363650156765232009-03-15T20:29:00.000-05:002009-03-15T20:29:00.000-05:00From the general tone of your (well written) post ...From the general tone of your (well written) post I'd say you are feeling the NSP. However, from your last paragraph perhaps something deeper does want that OSP. I know that I ended up choosing WHLC because it was a great mix of traditional (no rock bands, no "karaoke screens") but also a lot of new school (Pastor Eric's preaching style, the music and clapping that would be frowned on in an uber traditional church). I agree with you that it will be interesting to see who comes our way!FlippyHolzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828931934513162601noreply@blogger.com